The last time Paul Schrader saw Sofia Coppola she was probably four feet tall. 

We recently brought them back together for a conversation about what it's like to be an independent filmmaker today. Other topics covered include: Paul's unexpected career trajectory, stealing from the best, what really happened at the end of Taxi Driver, the challenges of writing without "nighttime additives," Ethan Hawke's forehead wrinkles, and what it took for Paul to finally make First Reformed—the movie he’s been waiting his whole life to make. 

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